• mrbutterscotch@feddit.org
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    2 hours ago

    A damn shame what he is doing to the States. It’s up to us europeans to defend freedom and democracy now

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      1 hour ago

      If you’re gonna start “defending freedom and democracy” the way the US does it, I’ll ask to please keep that shit to yourselves this time around.

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        1 hour ago

        Oh absolutely, I don’t mean in the way they invaded other countries for ‘democracy’ but rather in the way they acted as a shield for europe etc against Ussr/russia

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          See, that’s the problem, last time they acted as a shield against the USSR, here they organized a coup against a democratically elected president, and funded the following dictatorship for 20 years or so. And honestly that was nothing compared to what they did in, say, Cambodia and Vietnam (France, I’m looking at you too).

          But tbh it’s not like I expect them to stop doing this kinda shit once the hegemony is shattered, so I’m rambling for nothing

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            Fair enough. May I ask where here is? I guess what I’m saying is that europe has to defend their own freedom now. American Democracy was outdated anyway. And I agree, I don’t see an authoritarian USA being less imperialistic than they have been until now. I suppose it’s a good thing we won’t be helping them with it anymore

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    He never once said who he was maki g islt great for…and it’s no any of you americans. It currently costs 5m for those that wish it to be great again.

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      He did though. He specified that America was the greatest in 1870-1890. That was the Gilded Age, when a small group of people known as the Robber Barons owned all of the wealth and means of production. The oppression of the working class ended with unification, strikes, and the creation of unions.

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        But they did say “undoing its greatness”, which implies there was greatness to begin with.

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          Same greatness there as you find with “great bowel movement” or possibly “great white shark” - referencing it’s massiveness, not it’s quality.