• UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The assumption here is that Democrats are just cowards. That is the more flattering of two options, but the less likely one.

    The other one is that they are actually quite okay with what is happening, because their masters are.

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    At this point why should they say anything? They’ve been fighting tooth and nail for years against this. I feel this is the ‘when your enemy is making mistakes, don’t interfere’. They’re letting people see what they voted for, or didn’t get off their ass to vote for. Not even being part of Trumps’ base will be able to insulate them from what they’re about to struggle with.

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    4 hours ago

    A screenshot of a tweet of a screenshot of a tweet put on top of a photo of a concert (?) where the person adds nothing. Why do people do this lol

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    I thought we were going to talk about 3rd parties once it’s not critical to democracy.

    When are we going to wise up and realize that people who vacillate between “I won’t vote for genocide” and “why won’t the Democrats save us!?” are a fucking opp designed to kneecap the left?

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      There are steps that need to be taken to get third parties.

      First and foremost is the adoption of a voting system that can not only support third parties, but help them grow.

      TLDR; Fight for Approval if you just want third parties to exist and occasionally win, Fight for STAR if you want third parties to grow and become powerful.

      Now for the long part, talking about the problems with first past the post voting, and how that shapes the political discourse. Or you can watch this video.

      Also, before anyone breaks in with Ranked Choice or IRV as it’s called, you might want to read up on the flaws section here.

      And I’d write more, but the dog wants a walk, and that’s more important right now.

      • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Unity centered around what? The party of the less bad? Of the horrible leadership? The party that only does one genocide? The not Trump party? The party of “we will not trash the economy”?

        I could get behind that, but this federation has not been a democracy for a while. Not when you need more states won and several would require United Nations observers if they were countries. So, in some places it’s just a lost cause.

        People need to be disabused of the notion this is a fair fight won by normal rules. New leadership and splintering is exactly what is needed.

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          Unity centered around what?

          Participation. Making things a tiny bit better when possible, and if not that, then minimizing damage.

          Making things better nationally is hard. But locally, change can be efffected — my city (San Francisco) has ranked choice voting for local offices. It’s awesome, and I vote for who I want first. It’s small, but it’s a start.

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          Your ignorance knows no bounds. Republicans vote in a block. If we split the left in the midterms, the Republicans will retain control. Simple as that.

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            I don’t see how my very well known ignorance, and what I said, have anything in common.

            I do see hackers disrupting x today. That group, whatever their motives or how well I would like them, is doing more to restore good governance than then the entirety of the Democratic Party, if you look at events today.

            What have the democrats done today? Since midnight. Tell me some stuff and I might reconsider my stance

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              They can’t do anything but filibuster in the Senate with congressional minority. The left abandoned them at the polls to prove a point, and are now complaining that they’re ineffective with no control. You need to learn about our governmental structure.

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                The left abandoned them

                Wait, the whole left? Like a block of people ? No…

                I do agree me and others should understand more about government and get involved. More than watching a few old people in capital hill doing some useless motions while the nation goes under .

                This will naturally happen if things go as expected, and I probably will not like that answer any more than you

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              INCOMING TRADE OFFER:

              You get: slower tweets for maybe a week

              They get: removing everybody’s social security, dismantling of NATO, end of federal public education funding, 20 Million (conservative estimate) people removed from Medicaid, deportation on basis of ethnicity/heritage


              We cannot settle for petty attacks on the state. We need to reclaim the state. Vote blue no matter who, any Democrat is better than any Republican.

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        Ah yes, unity. The unity of attacking third parties. Of suing candidates to remove them from the ballot. Of refusing to run a primary to learn the wishes of the party. What great unity. I’ll pass on the party of “nothing will fundamentally change” with your views of “unity” like that.

        I agree we need to come together so the left stops losing. But the democrats do not agree with that, and will actively sabotage it as much as possible. And until that changes, we’re fucked. We need a party willing to adapt to the people on the left, not republicans.

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      Every US election is called the most important election. All of them. At some point I think the only way out is to make someone lose because of their support of FPTP.

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        Mission accomplished, then. Harris losing is a statement to the world that Not-Trump isn’t good enough.

        But in doing these theatrics you’ve empowered a fascist oligarchy. Maybe it wasn’t worth it, maybe electing enough Dems to reverse citizens united and tax the rich would have been the better concession of the two.

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    the government is not here to be your friend. the government is not here to be your enemy. the government is here to ensure there is a tomorrow.

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      the government is not here to be your enemy.

      “The government” as an abstract entity might not mean to be anyone’s “enemy,” but the one currently running the show absolutely views its own people as such.

      I never set out to be anyone’s enemy. I want a peaceful life, like most people do. Yet, by doing no more than the radical act of “existing,” the current United States government has hand-picked me and others like me to be their enemies. Anyone who’s LGBTQ, female, non-white, foreign-born, science-minded, and/or financially poor is liable to be scapegoated (at best) or outright targetted by those currently in charge.

      Make no mistake - “the government” might not be here to be anyone’s enemy, but this government definitely is.

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        Well, you see, you got a bunch of Neanderthals saying it should be run like a business, and businesses piss literally everyone off to a high degree, so here we are.

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          Running things like a business means all the money goes to the guy at the top and his buddies, and the rest should be glad they still have a job.

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      We had millions of tomorrows before governments even existed.

      Governments are here to more strictly enforce social contracts. They do this with varying levels of consent, but that is nevertheless what they do.

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      Someone else posed it this way: The Democrats exist to solicit donors; getting elected sometimes is a side effect. Big money has wrecked their ability to oppose what is happening.

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      The government exists to govern you, exploit you, enslave you.

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        There’s reason to be cynical but not outright nihilistic. Also, most of that is due to corporations and lobbyists in the US.