• KaneA
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      There are providers that do not provide you your own IPv4 address, with a feature called “CGNAT”. Often, they will then block you from port-forwarding altogether.

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      Bc $$$.

      My provider won’t allow it unless I pay them $15/mo extra.

      You can change the setting on your router anytime but it won’t work if your ISP doesn’t actually allow it.

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    Rent a seed box. That’s the best solution for everyone.

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      In principle yes it does - in case of TCP based protocols, without forwarded ports incoming connections aren’t possible. In the context of the main Torrent protocol this means you can only connect to peers that have ports forwarded. This is largely solved by uTP protocol that uses UDP hole punching method to circumvent this.

      So the sort answer is no this doesn’t matter unless you’re using very feature poor torrent client.

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      Does port forwarding really matter if you have a Holborn 9100?

      Does port forwarding really matter if you have Hannah Montana Linux?

      Does port forwarding really matter if you have a Dawson’s Creek trapper keeper?

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    We just need to add I2P directly into the client in a way that’s transparent to the user and all the problems are solved.

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        I2P has a mechanism where if you can’t open a port, another I2P router can help with NAT hole punching so that you can establish a connection.

        In practice this means I2P users can be equally well connected regardless of being able to open a port.

        But, unfortunately I2P is very slow. But maybe it’s just because there’s few people running routers, on slow networks?
        In any case, it would be beneficial to have it easily accessible to everyone, so that copyright holders can go pound sand.

        Edit: When you couldn’t open ports for I2P, the I2P router will have the “Network: Firewalled” status. This is the description of this status on the router dashboard:

        Firewalled: Your UDP port appears to be firewalled. As the firewall detection methods are not 100% reliable, this may occasionally be displayed in error. However, if it appears consistently, you should check whether both your external and internal firewalls are open for your port. I2P will work fine when firewalled, there is no reason for concern. When firewalled, the router uses “introducers” to relay inbound connections. However, you will get more participating traffic and help the network if you open your firewall. If you think you have already done so, remember that you may have both a hardware and a software firewall, or be behind an additional, institutional firewall you cannot control. Also, some routers cannot correctly forward both TCP and UDP on a single port, or may have other limitations or bugs that prevent them from passing traffic through to I2P.

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    IPv6. My stupid ISP actually shipped their router with all inbound ipv6 blocked with no way to unblock it, so I set up opnsense. Works like a charm!

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        It doesn’t fix it, per se, rather removes the need for layers of hacks such as nat and cg-nat. Every device gets a globally routable IP - no need to forward anything, just open the port you want.

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          This doesn’t solve for VPNs no longer offering it though, unless the VPN services started offering pure v6 via tunnel at some point while I wasn’t looking. I know I’ve never seen a v6 pier in the last few years since I started sailing again.

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            Yeah thats been my issue. It works fine on my unprotected IP. But I don’t have the cash to spend on expensive vpns and the cheap options seem to universally be shlt for port forwarding, ie. seeding

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        It’s not v6 itself, it’s rather lack of layers of nat that prevent forwarding a v4 for most folks.

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          Hmm, so no firewall in the router blocking ports, instead blocking happens on the actual client?

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            Port forwarding is necessary due to NAT not firewalls.

            It’s not that your router blocks new incoming connections at port X, it’s that it does not know which local client it’s meant for, since it’s addressed to the public IP that is held by your router.

            With IP6 it’s lan client also gets assigned a public IP6 address (as there are plenty) and so the router receives a connection addressed to a Lan client and knows where to route it.

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    Bulgaria, Hong Kong, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Netherlands, Russia, Cyprus, Moldova, Romania, Ukraine, Singapore, and Sweden. They all spit in the eye of DMCA.

    VPS in any of these countries, or just find a provider that doesn’t care about torrenting. If you go the VPS option, run your own VPN and just look for a VPS that allows considerable traffic. A quick example, Ultahost (Netherlands) offers a VPS with unlimited bandwidth for $7/mo if you pay for 3 years in advance. Like sure, now you’re paying to torrent, but I would rather pay $7/mo to protect myself with a VPN that I control vs worrying about port forwarding and getting DMCA’s in the mail. 🤷‍♂️ I guess it depends on how much skin you want in the game.

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      Can someone correct me here.

      If I have i2P enabled on my qBittorent client and I start seeding a torrent downloaded from a non-i2P connection.

      Does my seed of it allow others to download that torrent through i2P?

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        No, you need to cross seed. A torrent client that allows for this is biglybt. Or you need to manually re upload it on i2p

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        I2P is IMO the future for torrenting. The only downside it still has is that their is less content. But that will be solved when more and more people migrate to I2P

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          Does that mean you would route your BitTorrent traffic through I2P?

          Doesn’t that severely limit peer discovery to only other I2P users, since AFAIK I2P has no exit nodes / clearweb access?

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            Yes that is true. Their are a few bittorrent clients that can cross seed however. But it mainly stays inside i2P which Is good and makes it fully anonymous

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    As someone who has recently started seeding as much as I can, this is a great question to which I don’t have the answer.

    I am not renewing my Proton yearly subscription after it ends due to recent developments. They seem to be the only “big name” VPN with the port forwarding feature. I heard of OpenVPN, but have not had a chance to dig into it too much.

    My ISP does not provide IPV6 support, so this will be pretty important to sort out soon.

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      If you have a bit extra money, get a seedbox. Cheapest I’ve seen is €10/mo

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      OpenVPN is client/server software for setting up a VPN on your own infrastructure. It’s not a third-party service like ProtonVPN.

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      I seem to be out of the loop in regards to proton controversy and I haven’t found anything outstanding against them…

      Can you help me understand what you’re specifically referring to? I’m a proton user… so kinda want to know lol

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        as far as I can tell their CEO is a semi alt right cunt. Apart from that everythin seems pretty okay and the recent shift to nonprofit status is cool

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          😂 does everything have to be political now? I don’t care if the dude is a space alien who birthed Hitler, if the service is solid, I’m using it.

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            It has always been. FOSS is by itself political, just beyond the basic binary logic of left/right.

            Your apoliticism is a political instance as well. Take for instance this quoute from Desmond Tutu “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.”

            I’m not saying you have to ditch Proton over their CEO’s takes, my point is that thinking that everything suddenly became political is naive.

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                Agree, but that’s reality. People suck, world sucks, life sucks.

                You don’t have to change your lifestyle over whatever thing that <random person you don’t know nor care about> decided to say today. It is not wrong to feel that way neither. But, IMO, being aware of that, or at least being open to learn about that stuff, helps a lot to being in peace with it, and eventually, could lead to a more ethical consumption without going to extremes.

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            Everything has always been political. Just because you’re too privileged to notice that until someone mentions a viewpoint you dislike doesn’t mean anything except that you’re usually oblivious.

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        CEO is a libertarian idiot who can’t see any difference between American Republicans and Democrats. CEO doesn’t have absolute control of proton, that’s a board of other privacy advocates. Proton as a service provider is still safe despite their CEO being a political twit.

        IMO: A libertarian who doesn’t understand any value in why a government could possibly be good is the kind of person I want running an encryption service company. Wouldn’t trust him for running anything else though.

        Devils advocate: Both parties love the alphabet agencies unconditionally and historically saw no problem with them. Still waiting for the Snowden wrist slap to happen. He is a bigger idiot for not letting public relations for the company handle his opinion.

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          Proton as a service provider is still safe despite their CEO being a political twit.

          That twit was allowed to use the company’s Mastodon account to double-down on his shitty political post

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      I use Private Internet Access (PIA) and that has port forwarding. I read something about it on reddit but forgot about it, so idk of there’s anything bad it controversial surrounding PIA.

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        There is, just not in relation to piracy. The concerns are more over its financial incentives/ownership and privacy.

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        They got bought by a malvertising company a few years ago. It’s what made me drop them after being a customer of theirs for years.

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        Aren’t they located in Italy, the Shithole that keeps trying to outlaw all VPNs and/or force them to provide backdoors and identifiable customers? They can only be stopped so many times before they succeed…

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          Yeah it’s a bit of a “for now” thing and worth keeping an eye on Italy. To their credit, they don’t offer services in Italy itself anymore after the “privacy shield” bullshit because “it goes against their mission” (for what that’s worth lol)

          Afaik, there’s not many other choices for port forwarding

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      When you are not port forwarding you can only download from users who are actually port forwarding, or am I incorrect?

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        yes, seeding works too, with no port forwarding. With mullvad, it just works and with proton I have to enable “moderate NAT” sometimes, but seeding works without port forwarding, it always has

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          Only because you’re seeding to people that have port forwarding active. You can’t seed to people that are running the same setup as yourself.

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            Port forwarding is a huge vulnerability. With proton it’s not as much of a vulnerability, but it still opens a lot of shit that should stay closed

            whatever the case is, I’m able to seed without port forwarding

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              You’re opening a port in your VPN connection so no there’s no “huge vulnerability” (even without a VPN you’re only opening a port to your torrent client) and as mentioned, you’re only seeding to people who have port forwarding set up. If more people run without it like yourself, the whole system breaks down.

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        Mullvad had issues with threat actors abusing its services… so mullvad decided to go with PRIVACY instead of PIRACY user base is my understanding

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          Yeah, I was affected by this and had to cancel my subscription, but found that Mullvad handled it extremely well and refunded everyone who canceled due to the removal. Had they continued to allow these abuses to continue, some government somewhere would have most certainly shut them down completely, which would have benefitted no one.

          I still view them as a stellar company and would happily move back in the future if they ever offered a port forwarding solution again.