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In the 196 sub an OP was asking for advice on how to change their friends opinions which they disapprove of, because they were trying to warn them off of ‘the tankie triad’ and their friend didn’t have any issues with what they were seeing and was in fact subscribed to a number of instance already.

Clocks got banned first after suggesting that the OP try to be a genuine friend and try to find some common cause in real life rather than alienating people over abstract geopolitical factionalism:

> The original post feels like bait, but here is an authentic response. — Maybe genuinely be their friend instead of alienating them based on political flavoring. Perhaps you can be better working together to help others in your locality or communities than squandering over geopolitical matters. Swallow your frustrations, being annoyed is a part of being in a community. You can move on.

I raised the issue that censoring earnest advice as ‘tankie apologia’ and preemtively writing off any common cause/ isolating people is no way to win people over either as friends or comrades.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if ‘genuinely be their friend’ is ‘tankie apologia’ to be censored, I’m not sure you’re going to be very successful convincing anyone of anything in the real world.

I then got banned for this one, for continuing to find ‘the tankie triad’ extremely silly:

yeah that’s the context, I was just laughing because:

  1. only Lemmy users with an axe to grind call them that
  2. it sounds really silly, like they’re a nemesis to dr venture.
  3. I’m supposed to be the melodramatic one yet every day I get one-upped 😔

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I’m not here to tell them how to run their comm, my position is that this is way more draconian than anything I’ve run into in any of ‘the tankie triad’. The same groups of people loudly complaining about censorship on ‘tankie’ run instances don’t seem to have a problem enforcing vague/arbitrary vibes based censorship in their spaces.

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlOP
    1725·
    1 day ago

    Tankies are not leftists

    based on my observations so far pretty much everyone getting called ‘tankie’ on lemmy is a leftist, and many of the people most vocally opposed to ‘tankies’ on lemmy act a lot like crypto fascists.

    • WillStealYourUsername@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      2910·
      1 day ago

      I for sure have seen liberals throwing that word around thinking commie and tankie are interchangeable. We however use the term correctly.

      My experience is that those that complain the loudest about this tend to be obvious tankies in their comment history. I’ve seen many be angry at how the word is used and then have posts on .ml where they proudly call themselves a tankie.

      Most of the people we ban are worse than you, and call ukrainians vermins, some deny the tiananmen square massacre, or make bogus claims about how communist the CCP or russia today is. They are almost always from .ml.

      .ml absolutely has a problem with tankies. That you continue to believe that most tankies are just leftists or that your stance on ukraine is not problematic makes it pretty clear who you are.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlOP
        1520·
        1 day ago

        I’m ‘problematic’ because I have had family directly affected. As a result I am not going to be dogmatically committed to seeing a war prolonged when all that is being accomplished is normal people dying on both sides while war industries and profiteers make money hand over fist.

        The only wars that don’t end with diplomacy are the ones where we all end up dead.

        • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          32·
          11 hours ago

          Ok, well the war could end today if Putin leaves. The only nation not trying to end it is Russia. They started it, and they’re prolonging it.

          But I suppose it has been awhile since a Russian ruler has killed millions of his own people, Putin probably figured it was due.