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    10 hours ago

    The fact that “AI” hallucinates so extensively and gratuitously just means that the only way it can benefit software development is as a gaggle of coked-up juniors making a senior incapable of working on their own stuff because they’re constantly in janitorial mode.

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      Plenty of good programmers use AI extensively while working. Me included.

      Mostly as an advance autocomplete, template builder or documentation parser.

      You obviously need to be good at it so you can see at a glance if the written code is good or if it’s bullshit. But if you are good it can really speed things up without any risk as you will only copy cody that you know is good and discard the bullshit.

      Obviously you cannot develop without programming knowledge, but with programming knowledge is just another tool.

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      Depending on what it is you’re trying to make, it can actually be helpful as one of many components to help get your feet wet. The same way modding games can be a path to learning a lot by fiddling with something that’s complete, getting suggestions from an LLM that’s been trained on a bunch of relevant tutorials can give you enough context to get started. It will definitely hallucinate, and figuring out when it’s full of shit is part of the exercise.

      It’s like mid-way between rote following tutorials, modding, and asking for help in support channels. It isn’t as rigid as the available tutorials, and though it’s prone to hallucination and not as knowledgeable as support channel regulars, it’s also a lot more patient in many cases and doesn’t have its own life that it needs to go live.

      Decent learning tool if you’re ready to check what it’s doing step by step, look for inefficiencies and mistakes, and not blindly believe everything it says. Just copying and pasting while learning nothing and assuming it’ll work, though? That’s not going to go well at all.

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      It’ll just keep better at it over time though. The current ai is way better than 5 years ago and in 5 years it’ll be way better than now.

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        To get better it would need better training data. However there are always more junior devs creating bad training data, than senior devs who create slightly better training data.

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        That’s certainly one theory, but as we are largely out of training data there’s not much new material to feed in for refinement. Using AI output to train future AI is just going to amplify the existing problems.

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          I mean, the proof is sitting there wearing your clothes. General intelligence exists all around us. If it can exist naturally, we can eventually do it through technology. Maybe there needs to be more breakthroughs before it happens.

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              I mean - have you followed AI news? This whole thing kicked off maybe three years ago, and now local models can render video and do half-decent reasoning.

              None of it’s perfect, but a lot of it’s fuckin’ spooky, and any form of “well it can’t do [blank]” has a half-life.

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                Seen a few YouTube channels now that just print out AI generated content. Usually audio only with a generated picture on screen. Vast amounts could be made so cheaply like that, Google is going to have fun storing all that when each only gets like 25 views. I think at some point they are going to have to delete stuff.