Summary

Ukraine is hesitating to sign a U.S.-backed deal that would grant American companies access to 50% of its rare earth minerals in exchange for continued military support.

President Zelenskyy cited legal concerns and the lack of security guarantees.

The deal, pushed by Trump allies, aims to showcase Ukraine’s value to U.S. interests while reducing reliance on Chinese minerals.

However, Kyiv’s 2021 strategic partnership with the EU complicates negotiations, as European leaders resist surrendering shared resources to Washington. Talks remain ongoing.

  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Ukraine got used to weaken Putin and now the US sweeps in and recoups the cost for free. Ukrainians lose part of their country to Russia and hand over the minerals of the other half to America.

    Imagine being Ukrainian and having died for this.

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      Wasn’t the US supporting a genocide until like a month ago? Is this question really only popping right now in your head?

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    1 month ago

    Just tell the US they can have any resources they can liberate from Russia. We’d have tanks at Moscow in hours.

    • volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
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      Which, seeing the treatment Ukraine is getting by the US, I assume you believe it’s a bad thing right? Right?

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        The US only does things selfishly, so yeah. Though Russia really doesn’t have it better.

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              Not so much about your lack of /s, there’s widespread russophobia since 2022 in the west and many people simply don’t care what happens to so+called “orcs”

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                I have worked with many Russians in the past, they are fantastic engineers. The people are wonderful. But it’s very obvious why there is Russophobia considering they are the ones actively trying to capture land from other sovereign nations.

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                  I don’t hate Americans or English for the actions of their governments, I don’t see why I should hate Russians

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    Poor Ukraine. One side wants to kill them all and steal the land, another side wants to rape its land, not to mention bordering Belarus, Slovakia and Hungary who are the bitches of Putin. We live in a sad reality

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      One side wants to kill them all

      Not that I like fascist Putin, but isn’t the civilian casualty rate in Ukraine extremely low to other conflicts we’ve seen recently like the genocide in Gaza or the invasion of Iraq?

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        Only because Russia is failing to do what they’ve really wanted to do since the beginning, or did you forget Bucha.

        They’re still stealing children by the thousands though.

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          Russia is so incompetent that it fails at killing more civilians than trained personnel? Is that the argument?

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          Yes, if Russia turns to murdering civilians on the scale of Iraq or Gaza, I’ll be the first to condemn that more, but it isn’t the case as of now. Not that this justifies the invasion or the nationalist Russian ideology, ofc

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            That is the end goal. Gulag for the political dissedents, chattle slavery for the rest of the Ukranians. Best to stop russias colonial ambitions before it gets to that point.

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              Not really what I think the end goal is. The invasion of Ukraine is a military response to the lack of soft power of Russia to maintaining a sphere of influence otherwise, through diplomatic and economic and other means. Guess only time will tell

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          I’m not taking anything in any way, I’m making a statement about numbers, not about intentions

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        Of course it’s always difficult counting the dead, and Russia doesn’t allow any monitoring of this kind of thing in the territory it controls. But it’s likely the number of civilian deaths is around double that of Gaza. The numbers for the military is likely more than double that.

        Ukraine does it’s best to protect it’s civilian population and their soldiers wear uniforms. Hamas does not wear uniforms, and actively prevents civilians from evacuating from areas where there’s combat operations. In fact having combat operations happening in populated areas was basically the point of massacring villages while taking hostages, both of which are war crimes. If you want to negotiate a prisoner release you don’t massacre villages, if you want a war that minimizes civilian casualties, you don’t take hostages to densely populated areas.

        Hamas created a scenario to maximize civilian deaths, and it will probably never be known the true number of civilian deaths since they didn’t wear uniforms so the number of Hamas dead and number of civilian deaths can’t be distinguished. Israel claims half the number you see reported are Hamas, while Hamas claims it’s much less.

        Note the difference between a military that protects it’s civilians and wears uniforms and what Hamas is doing. Larger numbers of soldiers than civilians die in Ukraine because they prioritize protecting civilians, while larger numbers of civilians than soldiers die in Gaza as fodder for their propaganda machine.

        Note that Hamas is suddenly wearing uniforms as soon as a ceasefire is in effect. How often do you remember seeing them wear uniforms in combat when doing so would prevent civilian casualties? They have uniforms, they just don’t wear them in combat in order to maximize confusion which results in civilian casualties.

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          the number of civilian deaths

          I specifically talked about ratios and not about absolute numbers. Ukraine has an order of magnitude more people than Palestine, it would be surprising if there weren’t more casualties overall.

          Hamas does not wear uniforms, and actively prevents civilians from evacuating from areas where there’s combat operations

          OK, Zionist and genocide apologist.

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    The audacity to frame resource extraction as “aid” would be impressive if it weren’t so transparent. Ukraine’s rare earth minerals aren’t collateral for loans—they’re the spoils of geopolitical brinkmanship, dressed in the rotting corpse of diplomacy.

    Trump’s team operates like feudal overlords, demanding tribute from a nation under siege. Those minerals power everything from missiles to smartphones. Calling this a “reimbursement” is like mugging a drowning man and calling it debt collection.

    Now they’re floating troop deployments to “guard” these assets? Please. This isn’t peacekeeping—it’s a protection racket, ensuring the extraction pipeline stays open while the propaganda machine spins conquest as charity.

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      Fuck, everyone has been giving us communists shit for the past 8 decades for explaining this is the exact way that imperialist powers operate in their colonies. Maybe we all will finally understand now that the Ukraine war was never a conflict of Russian expansionism vs Ukrainian national defence, but an imperialist proxy war between US and Russia?

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        If you’re being reductive to the point where you’re ignoring the importance of sovereignty and democracy, then it’s fair game to reduce communism to being just about some college kids that think Che Guevara T-Shirts look cool.

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          So it’s reductive to talk about imperialist wars, but not about “Russia want territory, Ukraine rightful defense”? Wanna talk sovereignty and democracy? We could start way back with Euromaidan. Funny how spontaneous and disorganised protests outside US-influence end up with pro-US regime changes, whereas huge protests movements lasting years such as the Occupy movement in the US, the Gilets Jeunes in France or the 15-M in Spain end up in nothing. I guess we don’t question democracy and sovereignty in these instances now, do we? No complex analysis to be had there