• Mwa@lemm.ee
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    this is literally E-waste
    Reminds me what Spotify did with the Spotify car thing

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    There is a way to circumvent the checker. I can’t remember what we did. It was like disable TPM maybe? If folks want to install W11 on their old computer.

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      Good luck on your journey! It can be frustrating at times, but please feel free to make posts asking for help if you can’t find it online!

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        Appreciate it! I’ll be sure to do that. Between here and some old Reddit posts, I’ve found a lot of useful stuff on getting started

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    Trade it in to who? Who’s buying PCs that can’t be used? I mean there’s the retro market, but AFAIK they aren’t buying anything after Windows XP.

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    The ONLY thing I still apparently need Windows for is running OPL Manager and HDL Batch Installer for my Playstation 2 hard drives. Can anyone point me in a direction of Linux alternatives? I managed to get WinHiip running in Wine, but it can’t see the PS2 HDD from Wine. Pretty sure I need something that runs native, and for the life of me I cannot find anything. Which is really surprising to me.

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      Back whe I used OPL, OPL-PC-Tools worked fine. OPL Manager specifically also ran fine under wine for me.

      If you find the time you could do some testing under a live media enviroment, I recommend Linux Mint if you haven’t tested it already :)

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        I’ll definitely check out OPL-PC-Tools, thanks! HDL Batch Installer just hangs on open, checking for updates. I have been running Mint since November. I can’t get OPL manager to launch at all. Regular Wine, Proton, nothing. I’ve tried brand new prefixes with fresh .NET runtime, it just refuses to start.

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    Well at least the second hand laptop market will be flooded by the companies deciding to upgrade to newer laptops for Win11, so a small upside.

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    “Trade it in or recycle it” basically means “your best bet to solve this problem is to pass it on to someone else, who will pass it on to someone else, and so on until it arrives at landfill”.

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    I love how in a world where we banned straws we are somehow OK with Microsoft pushing people to recycle their old but otherwise adequate system for what, to the vast majority of people, are some paper thin security advantages.

    Anybody who asks me about Windows 10’s EOL date will be introduced to the option of using Linux before i’ll help them select a replacement system. Especially if they literally only use a browser there really is no reason to go through hoops or spend money to stick with Windows.

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      We’ve lost to climate change already. Can’t even get people to wear a mask. Asking them to completely change their polluting lifestyles? Impossible. What we do instead is ban plastic straws to pretend were doing something. Reality doesn’t matter, just how people feel.

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        We very clearly haven’t already lost, otherwise the world would have ended. You and I wouldn’t be having this discussion, we’d be cobbling together what bits of food we could to survive.

        Stop this mindset, it’s destructive and foolish - human beings have the capability of overcoming this. If people with this mindset were asked to dive into the cooling tanks at the Chernobyl incident - we, as a species, would actually be fucked.

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          We have. Our ship’s course is set. The systems we have in place are too entrenched in their destruction. I remember when the Paris agreement was signed and everyone was talking about how we need to cut emissions now or never. What did we do as a species? Increase energy demands across the board and keep the status quo, and those demands just keep rising higher and higher.

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      I love how in a world where we banned straws

      We didn’t. If anything, we are in a world where we banned banning straws, because even this trivial token concession was considered a Violation of Our Fundamental Freedoms. Media personalities screaming and nashing their teeth over straws was a PR stunt by petrochemical companies to backstop any kind of radical anti-plastic reforms.

      Anybody who asks me about Windows 10’s EOL date will be introduced to the option of using Linux before i’ll help them select a replacement system.

      Cheers to this.

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      paper thin security advantages.

      And loads of highly intrusive, unremovable, anti-user bullshit.

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    Use Linux. And dont listen to zealts who say its not a viable option. Its actually way ahead than Windows or Macos

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      Its actually way ahead than Windows or Macos

      Man you need to qualify the hell out of this. As a Linux users there are definitely things MacOS and Windows can not only do better but sometimes at all. I also think people need to not gloss over the fact that the tech literacy floor is noticeably higher. Just knowing what your machine can run out the box can be a task. Most people really know absolutely nothing about how computers work

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      Right? People don’t think about the years (decades in some cases) that they spent learning Windows in order for them to be as comfortable with it as they are.

      For those people, learning Linux should not take very long and once you do you will realize that it is superior in literally every way.

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        Depends what you do on your computer.

        Macs are amazing and unique and, at the same time, extremely infuriating and very expensive.

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      And dont listen to zealts who say its not a viable option.

      It is a viable option, especially for old hardware. I mainly don’t use it because I want to install an OS exactly once: When the computer is brand new. This is exactly when some shit is not working properly on Linux. But if you have old hardware, it will run no problems. Just install Ubuntu and Libre Office on it, pray that you get the printer set up, done.

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        “pray you get the printer set up” is more of a windows thing. For ten years, over three versions of windows, I couldn’t get printing to work reliably. Switched to Linux, no problems since

        Also, the new hardware thing is not really true anymore. Most things are supported from the get-go, or at least within a few weeks

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          I also never had a problem. Neither under windows nor under linux. The problem usually occurs within the printer. The more urgently you need to print a document, the more likely your printer is gonna jam. I suspect those things are so crappy in order to keep IT support companies afloat.

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            The more urgently you need to print a document, the more likely your printer is gonna jam

            This really is some kind of law of the universe.

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    Im so glad I fully switched to Linux a year ago. Never going back to Windows.

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      I have to use Windows 11 on my work machine and it reminds me every day why I will never go back.

      I opened the process manager a week or two ago for the first time in a while, and holy shit how do people live like that??? If it were my personal laptop, I would have had a fucking aneurysm trying to figure out what the fuck all that shit was.

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      i’ve been on linux on and off since 1998, however I fully switched about 5 years ago and never looked back.

      I was curious around 3 months ago, between distro swapping and I installed W11. It lasted 2h until I rage installed linux and took me an entire day to wash the windows taste off. bleah…

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    They just try to force people to buy another PC and so many “computer ignorant” people will…poor old ladies who click on the ads…

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      “Genius Bar” was always just a means of getting people back into the Apple Store to sell them another product. This is an iteration on a general theme.