• AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee
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      Still incredible that people bought into “half the features twice the price” Apple products so hard that it corrupted the entire industry

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        As I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to realize that convenience and simplicity are sometimes a feature. Just Works™ technology has a lot of value (assuming the thing does in fact just work).

        I don’t have any Apple products, but there are plenty of other categories in my life where I’ve paid more for a worse product just because I didn’t have to think at all about the one I got.

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          Just Works™ technology has a lot of value (assuming the thing does in fact just work).

          And that assumption is unfounded in Apple’s case. My parents have constant issues with their iPhones that you would never get on Android. But my mom is convinced that it’s easier to use than Android despite never having tried Android

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            I’d be interested to hear what those problems are. Not saying you’re wrong by any means, but the legacy of the iPhone has been, from the very beginning, a simple, non customizable, piss easy to use, smart phone for dumb people that basically can’t be broken (at least on a software level) because it won’t let you play with any of the fiddly bits. It does exactly what it does and if you don’t like that, shoulda bought an Android instead, because this iPhone isn’t about to let you change it.

            That’s not to say that they can’t have bugs or issues, because they certainly can, but the ability of the phone owner to brick themselves is like a fraction of a fraction of a percent of what you’d see with Androids in my experience. Android will let you do what you want up to and including breaking your boot loader if you mess around with developer settings, Apple doesn’t even give you dev settings last I knew.

            I’m an Android fan myself but I do see that Apple has a use case, and that use case is giving non technically minded people a device that “just works” mostly without having to fiddle with it.

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          I feel this way about cars. I still don’t even like automatic doors. Electrical systems in any car is a nightmare. Add 10k little doodads and features all drawing electrical power make so complicated a mess you’ll never sort it out and if you do you’ll probably realize that the automotive engineer set it up that way because there isn’t a better solution that’s obvious to anyone who knows how electrical systems are designed and work let alone a backyard mechanic.

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        I will give him credit he turned computers and phones into fashion accessories. He is closer to Coco Chanel than any tech visionary. If you think about it his methods were closer to QAnon or flat earth people. You can sell some people anything if you can convince them they are better than other people if they follow you. I am still salty about him overshadowed Dennis Richie’s passing who was a real tech visionary.

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          Steve Jobs, Edison, Elon are all similar to me as they used smart people and took most of the credit. Westinghouse at least for the time treated his employees above average.

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          Steve Jobs a fascist? Like Vichy collaborator and Nazi spy Coco Chanel?

          Edit not defending Steve jobs over here

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            Considering how much control Apple tries to exert over how you use your devices that does seem pretty close to the truth.

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              Apple’s shitty software isn’t the problem. Literally everything online is collected. Why wouldn’t they? How much do you think this comment costs outside the fediverse? And fuck Apple, too you’re right