I dunno why people are upset about this. I see the majority of people complaining about Dems “taking the high road” and avoiding dirty tactics like the Republicans take. “They should take the gloves off and get dirty on the low road”, “fight at their level!” I read.
Then as soon as Crockett does take one glove off and makes one borderline offensive comment the reaction is largely, “ugh, no need to be ableist”.
Guys, what the hell do you think the ‘low road’ is?
It doesn’t start at breaking the law and blocking supreme court noms, it starts at political midslinging, and the dems are getting “wow that’s going too far”. Lol. They will not escalate to a higher level of personal risk such as breaking protocols and laws (as the R’s do) if they’re knocked back at the first rung. They see the public has a preference: protocol above results.
(I’m about to get replies about how mudslinging needs to be carefully crafted to avoid any offensive terms to any group now. Be real. That is not always possible)
Dems need to remember that if it’s not nazi rhetoric, it’s on the right side. The bar has been lowered to fascism and we still try to hold each other to absolute political correctness.
We don’t have that luxury anymore. Do you believe in equality, the right to vote, the equal applicability of law to even the highest office? Great, you pass. Bonus points if you believe in a strong social safety net.
Yeah, but there was no substance. It was just name calling. I don’t think simple name-calling got the Republicans anywhere either. She could’ve briefly segwayed to making a point about his policies hurting the disabled.
I honestly think a good portion of Trump’s popularity is his name calling.
Now, to be clear, I think that’s something that only works with idiots. Further, I don’t think it’s a tactic Dems can really pull off. But make no mistake, being mean to the right people is what’s popular for the bigot party.
Nah, Sleepy Joe hit because it directly called into question his incompetence. Crooked Hillary worked similarly. His making fun of the journalist with the hand disease or whatever didn’t really hit.
There’s no reason to take the “Low Road.” Dems dont have to get down in the mud, and lie, cheat, and steal to win, they just have to play HARD BALL, and force the Republicans to follow the law, the rules, ethics, and especially the Constitution.
It would have been really helpful ifntheyd started doing this during the Bush administration, and not waited until the MAGA Nazi Criminal Emterprise had alreadybwrecked and stolen nearly everything, but they can start now.
And part of playing Hard Ball is dehumanizing the MAGA Nazis by applying insulting knicknames. Itbwill be more effective against them because they are treasonous criminals, sonthe names really stick.
Some suggestions:
HitlerPig or Agent Krasnov
Couchfucker Vance
Kapo Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller
Steve “Unwiped Asshole” Bannon
Lauren Boobert
Empty G
Big Booby Bondi
Goldigging Whore (applies to several, but specifically the Press Secretary)
Nobody’s ratifying anything. I’m using these names no matter what anyone says. But they are pretty good names (I especially like PeeWee Himmler), so I’m putting them out there and hoping others use them as well.
You are naive if you think you won’t get dogpiled by your own side for using even these names. To most of the naive liberals and leftists, the things you’re describing IS the “low road.”
The left doesn’t want to win, they want to be angry. But they’re not as stupid as the right so that anger has to take the form of more complicated rationalizations, which is why you get people on your own side attacking you for making fun of some conservative chud’s penis size or other physical characteristics.
I’m not a Democrat, so I really don’t care what they think. They have nothing but a losing strategy, so I’m doing my part to inflict damage on the MAGA Nazis without them, whether they like it or not.
We have a deeply fundamental problem broadly with society that people want to be outraged and angry, so they will latch onto anything, this is why the left can’t organize and why the most successful political party are the party of orcs and violence and animosity and outrage, even though they have fewer people.
The left isn’t much different honestly, they just choose to turn into raging asshats when someone breaks their unspoken rules and boundaries that make them feel “civil” and feel like the “good smart guys.” The right doesn’t have qualms about being the bad guy because they’re fucking stupid and we’re gingerly tip-toeing around them careful we’re going to hurt someone’s feelings, meanwhile on our side we can’t even form a single broad movement because too many leftists get twisted when someone in their own ranks says a word that could spark the outrage of someone, somewhere, at some point.
I don’t feel like I have a team at all. I want the same things that the left states its arguing for and fighting for, but it doesn’t. It doesn’t fight, it doesn’t accept people, it doesn’t actually want change, it uses the same tactics of shaming and finger-wagging everyone, everywhere for saying naughty things, then wondering why they’re not getting more people or making progress.
edit: your downvoting is as impotent and pointless as the fights the left takes on. If you think an argument against the left’s tactics is an implicit endorsement of the right, congratulations, you belong with the right, you are a reactionary and dumber than shit.
I think it helps to get out of online spaces and interact in person with people. Text is always far easier to misinterpret or to misword, you’re more likely to find allies face to face.
I agree that people need to be more accepting and slower to judge. There are a lot of anti-Trump/MAGA people out there who lack the lexicon to get across that they’re on-side and whom might make a mistake here and there - no need to flay them publically and turn them away.
Someone on the left will absolutely, 100% call you out for using the term “cunt” as a pejorative, they will bring up how calling someone useless is ablest, and probably some story about how “sniveling” was used as a slur in 1642 on a small island off Wales.
Why? because we have an innate human response system to respond to dissent from our own “tribe” and as a result, people have learned to get attention by attacking their own tribe. They want to feel heard and feel special and know that if they offer some “counter point” they will seem “intellectually honest” and thus gain standing with their team, and again, we simply don’t know how to tune out criticism from our own people and move forward. It’s why we keep losing.
The right wins because they’re too dimwitted to do this, they are mindless in their group support. They don’t have the language skills to form intellectual opposition or to “call out” each other, they don’t know how. This is all a great example of how nature doesn’t necessarily design for intelligence, and being smart can be a survival disadvantage.
About the kind of response I expected from the people who don’t know how to be effective at all. Congratulations for accomplishing even less and making yourself out to be a generic zoomer who can’t think of anything original.
I dunno why people are upset about this. I see the majority of people complaining about Dems “taking the high road” and avoiding dirty tactics like the Republicans take. “They should take the gloves off and get dirty on the low road”, “fight at their level!” I read.
Then as soon as Crockett does take one glove off and makes one borderline offensive comment the reaction is largely, “ugh, no need to be ableist”.
Guys, what the hell do you think the ‘low road’ is?
It doesn’t start at breaking the law and blocking supreme court noms, it starts at political midslinging, and the dems are getting “wow that’s going too far”. Lol. They will not escalate to a higher level of personal risk such as breaking protocols and laws (as the R’s do) if they’re knocked back at the first rung. They see the public has a preference: protocol above results.
(I’m about to get replies about how mudslinging needs to be carefully crafted to avoid any offensive terms to any group now. Be real. That is not always possible)
Yeah, I’m fine with a black lady basically going "if I’m dei, what does that make you?’
Dems need to remember that if it’s not nazi rhetoric, it’s on the right side. The bar has been lowered to fascism and we still try to hold each other to absolute political correctness.
We don’t have that luxury anymore. Do you believe in equality, the right to vote, the equal applicability of law to even the highest office? Great, you pass. Bonus points if you believe in a strong social safety net.
Yeah, but there was no substance. It was just name calling. I don’t think simple name-calling got the Republicans anywhere either. She could’ve briefly segwayed to making a point about his policies hurting the disabled.
God I wish that was true.
I honestly think a good portion of Trump’s popularity is his name calling.
Now, to be clear, I think that’s something that only works with idiots. Further, I don’t think it’s a tactic Dems can really pull off. But make no mistake, being mean to the right people is what’s popular for the bigot party.
Nah, Sleepy Joe hit because it directly called into question his incompetence. Crooked Hillary worked similarly. His making fun of the journalist with the hand disease or whatever didn’t really hit.
You’re right, I also questioned all of the claims about Biden’s incompetence. GOOD point.
Ha Segway I see what you did, good old CEO hot wheels.
There’s no reason to take the “Low Road.” Dems dont have to get down in the mud, and lie, cheat, and steal to win, they just have to play HARD BALL, and force the Republicans to follow the law, the rules, ethics, and especially the Constitution.
It would have been really helpful ifntheyd started doing this during the Bush administration, and not waited until the MAGA Nazi Criminal Emterprise had alreadybwrecked and stolen nearly everything, but they can start now.
And part of playing Hard Ball is dehumanizing the MAGA Nazis by applying insulting knicknames. Itbwill be more effective against them because they are treasonous criminals, sonthe names really stick.
Some suggestions:
HitlerPig or Agent Krasnov
Couchfucker Vance
Kapo Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller
Steve “Unwiped Asshole” Bannon
Lauren Boobert
Empty G
Big Booby Bondi
Goldigging Whore (applies to several, but specifically the Press Secretary)
Nazis (applies to all Republicans)
Pedophiles (applies to all Republicans)
Criminals (applies to all Republicans)
Most important of all:
Traitors (applies to ALL Republicans)
Just like democrats to ratify insults by committee.
Nobody’s ratifying anything. I’m using these names no matter what anyone says. But they are pretty good names (I especially like PeeWee Himmler), so I’m putting them out there and hoping others use them as well.
Besides, I’m not Democrat.
They’re fine insults. So was hot wheels.
No one at comedy roasts takes these oversensitive criticisms of “the virtuous way to insult” seriously. Why is that?
It’s a distraction.
The only one I can’t get onboard with is Leavitt’s. That’s no way to talk about whores, comparing them to her. Have a little decency!
You are naive if you think you won’t get dogpiled by your own side for using even these names. To most of the naive liberals and leftists, the things you’re describing IS the “low road.”
The left doesn’t want to win, they want to be angry. But they’re not as stupid as the right so that anger has to take the form of more complicated rationalizations, which is why you get people on your own side attacking you for making fun of some conservative chud’s penis size or other physical characteristics.
I’m not a Democrat, so I really don’t care what they think. They have nothing but a losing strategy, so I’m doing my part to inflict damage on the MAGA Nazis without them, whether they like it or not.
We have a deeply fundamental problem broadly with society that people want to be outraged and angry, so they will latch onto anything, this is why the left can’t organize and why the most successful political party are the party of orcs and violence and animosity and outrage, even though they have fewer people.
The left isn’t much different honestly, they just choose to turn into raging asshats when someone breaks their unspoken rules and boundaries that make them feel “civil” and feel like the “good smart guys.” The right doesn’t have qualms about being the bad guy because they’re fucking stupid and we’re gingerly tip-toeing around them careful we’re going to hurt someone’s feelings, meanwhile on our side we can’t even form a single broad movement because too many leftists get twisted when someone in their own ranks says a word that could spark the outrage of someone, somewhere, at some point.
I don’t feel like I have a team at all. I want the same things that the left states its arguing for and fighting for, but it doesn’t. It doesn’t fight, it doesn’t accept people, it doesn’t actually want change, it uses the same tactics of shaming and finger-wagging everyone, everywhere for saying naughty things, then wondering why they’re not getting more people or making progress.
edit: your downvoting is as impotent and pointless as the fights the left takes on. If you think an argument against the left’s tactics is an implicit endorsement of the right, congratulations, you belong with the right, you are a reactionary and dumber than shit.
I think it helps to get out of online spaces and interact in person with people. Text is always far easier to misinterpret or to misword, you’re more likely to find allies face to face.
I agree that people need to be more accepting and slower to judge. There are a lot of anti-Trump/MAGA people out there who lack the lexicon to get across that they’re on-side and whom might make a mistake here and there - no need to flay them publically and turn them away.
‘Useless sniveling little cunt’
That’s literally all it’d take.
You don’t have to be ableist to be insulting.
That would be deemed sexist, no?
No I don’t think anyone is going to call a woman a sexist for calling a man a cunt.
Certainly not as much as they’d call her ableist for making fun of his wheelchair.
Someone on the left will absolutely, 100% call you out for using the term “cunt” as a pejorative, they will bring up how calling someone useless is ablest, and probably some story about how “sniveling” was used as a slur in 1642 on a small island off Wales.
Why? because we have an innate human response system to respond to dissent from our own “tribe” and as a result, people have learned to get attention by attacking their own tribe. They want to feel heard and feel special and know that if they offer some “counter point” they will seem “intellectually honest” and thus gain standing with their team, and again, we simply don’t know how to tune out criticism from our own people and move forward. It’s why we keep losing.
The right wins because they’re too dimwitted to do this, they are mindless in their group support. They don’t have the language skills to form intellectual opposition or to “call out” each other, they don’t know how. This is all a great example of how nature doesn’t necessarily design for intelligence, and being smart can be a survival disadvantage.
Congratulations on using 3 entire paragraphs to say absolutely nothing useful.
This reads like someone who’s never talked to an actual leftist in real life. Please go touch grass.
About the kind of response I expected from the people who don’t know how to be effective at all. Congratulations for accomplishing even less and making yourself out to be a generic zoomer who can’t think of anything original.