• cheers_queers@lemm.ee
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      9 days ago

      that’s literally why blocking roads in protest is so effective. enough angry calls to the mayor office due to people being late for work etc, is how protesting puts pressure on representatives to actually represent the people.

      or did you think that huddling on sidewalks holding signs was supposed to do something?

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        9 days ago

        Blocking roads in protest has proven effective at exactly one thing: Increasing the enforcement and penalties for jaywalking.

        It is counterproductive at everything else.

        did you think that huddling on sidewalks holding signs was supposed to do something?

        Where did I say huddle on sidewalks?

        I think JSO should be firebombing ICE car dealerships, gas stations, muffler shops, and other entities and agents of the oil industry. Not harassing victims of that industry.

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          Blocking roads in protest has proven effective at exactly one thing: Increasing the enforcement and penalties for jaywalking.

          Well… no.

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              8 days ago

              I can cite many news articles which show that protesting in this way is more effective.

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                8 days ago

                No doubt, no doubt. There are plenty of articles claiming JSO protests are effective.

                Of course, if they were actually effective, you wouldn’t need to point to news articles promoting the virtues of standing around in the street. You’d be able to point to oil consumption rates. If their protests were actually effective, oil consumption rates would be falling.

                The reality is that those articles do nothing but make you feel good, like something is being done. But reality doesn’t care about feelings, or the fiddling articles designed to make us feel good while the world burns.

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                  3 days ago

                  If that is the only metric you are looking it, kind of. It slumped during COVID and has looked like it’s tailing off somewhat. Without tax breaks, subsidies and support for other forms of transport, say, we will not shake our dependence.

                  But, we can look at specific countries and see if those things have helped on a national scale, like Norway, for example, which has seen consumption decline since 2018. And Sweden. And Japan. And Germany. And…

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                    3 days ago

                    Norway, for example, which has seen consumption decline since 2018.

                    They started obstructing traffic in 2022, not 2018. Norway’s consumption has increased, significantly, since they began obstructing traffic.

                    Japan’s decline since then is commensurate with its population decline. Germany’s and Sweden’s are flat. UK is up even more than Norway.