I couldn’t agree more with your stand about the need for devices to be smart.

It is all about data-mining and advertising.

Maybe this is just me (or wishful thinking), but I do notice more people being cautious about stuff that needs a cloud connection.

People around me create dummy accounts to register Android enabled televisions, prefer stuff by eufy over ring etc.

Maybe we -as a bunch of uncontrollable nerds- should educate people more or at least share stuff like the wiki by Louis.

People need to know, they are the product…

Oh! The IOT toaster, perhaps a really good analogy! That was a good read and fitting for this situation.

When was it published? 2019/2020 ?? Well, took just 5 years for the corporate greed to get on par.

The point here is:

• not all functionality is available as-is. You need to install a cloud connected app.
• a cloud connection is not per se one direction. It is more than possible, the people operating this cloud (for Bosch) have the means (read: api) to connect back into your network via the hardware.

You might take a good look at this work.

As long as the firmware of the dishwasher isn’t audited by third parties (or even better: open source), who knows what it is able to do in your network?

And all of this is not necessary, before the cloud, dishwashers worked fine too.