• Telorand@reddthat.com
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    16 days ago

    Can you point out the disinformation?

    I did. Read my first comment. I specified where the disinformation is, and you would be wise to heed that these are almost verbatim Russian propaganda talking points they use to justify why they should just be allowed to take Ukraine.

    Whether you think it’s fair for the draft to exist is irrelevant when you’re staring down the barrel of an invading country. They’re coming, and the draft exists to ensure the country does as well. I am sorry for them that people are trying to escape the draft, but again: war is not fair.

    If the draft didn’t exist, the end result would be might makes right. The countries who didn’t have enough volunteers would lose, and the country with the bigger stick would always be the victor. Human lives would be spared, sure, but at what cost? Living as a conquered people is not defacto better just because you’re alive. One need only look at history to see that fact.

    I’m just highlighting that meeting the world most powerful rulers in their headquarters is not the same as rooting in a trench.

    Nobody said it was. But that doesn’t mean he’s never been in the trenches or that what he’s doing isn’t still vital. War isn’t fair.

    Indeed if it wasn’t for deluded maniacs with power ambitions we wouldn’t have the draft, that’s why i’m calling them out.

    Since you said “them,” I’m going to assume you’re including Zelenski. The draft isn’t a grab for power. It’s not some method of controlling the population. It’s a last resort method of survival, and last resorts of any kind usually come with heavy costs, or else they would be first resorts.

    So you’re not “calling anyone out” or saying anything particularly novel or relevant to human rights when “rights” are a privilege you get from a society that is not at war. War is not fair.

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      16 days ago

      I did. Read my first comment.

      I already replied to your first comment and the others. I’m not posting any disinformation, just because you don’t like it or the russian are saying it doesn’t imply that what i’m saying is false or wrong.

      and the draft exists to ensure the country does as well.

      A country does not exist because of forced conscription. People can defend themself even without authoritarian leaders drafting them by force. Your claim is that ukraine still exist only because they drafted people against their will, you are basically implying ukraine people are cowards and should be forced to fight.

      If the draft didn’t exist, the end result would be might makes right. The countries who didn’t have enough volunteers would lose, and the country with the bigger stick would always be the victor. Human lives would be spared, sure, but at what cost? Living as a conquered people is not defacto better just because you’re alive. One need only look at history to see that fact.

      You talk like a villain, wars are fought by real people who die in the most miserable way. I encourage you to watch the combat footage out of this war to look at what is happening.