• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    As a classically trained driver I’ve found automatics make people drive worse because they have to think less. And they already barely think.

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      4 days ago

      Manual occupies their phone hand. How is someone supposed to heart content so the algorithm gives them more of it!

      Using the PRiNDle opens one up for so many activities.

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      4 days ago

      Do you sing an aria by Mozart or something when you drive? But anyway, in my experience driving manual makes people more distracted because they have to think about gears and the clutch and stuff. Sure, a competent driver will not have any difficulty with that, but there’s an awful lot of them out there that don’t quite fall into that category.

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        4 days ago

        You must not know how to drive a manual. When you know how to drive one, you don’t think about it. You just do it. You feel connected to the car and connected to the act of driving. Automatics absolutely allow people to go on autopilot and they focus on anything but driving: stuffing their face with food, browsing lemmy, texting, talking on their phone on speaker while holding it up to their mouth for some fucking reason even though it would be easier and better sound quality to just hold it up to their ear like phones were designed to be used, or you know, just use the fucking hands free phone calling that’s built into every fucking car that was made in the last decade and a half and included in every cheap ass aftermarket stereo system available on the planet

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          3 days ago

          I’ve driven manual for over 30 years. Back in the day automatic transmissions were slow, clunky and inefficient. When I first tried modern one, I was instantly converted. Like, I also don’t want to manually adjust rotation speed on my washing machine, why would I do it in the car? Driving electric takes it to a whole new level. It just frees up mind share for concentrating on traffic. There’s no guarantee people will actually do that, of course. And if you think that things that are subconscious don’t take up mind share, you don’t know much about how the brain works. And if you think drivers on manual are less distracted, I have news for you too. I guess you live in the US, where driving manual is a choice. Here it’s mainly in cheaper, older cars which are driven by people who don’t much care about cars or driving.

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    3 days ago

    Big oil forced that shit onto you instead of going the far superior EV route from the beginning. Now EVs are finally taking over and I’m happy my kids never have to get fuel grease on their hands and suffer those nasty fumes at gas stations. Shifters were needed for an inferior technology to work. I liked it as an experience when I learned to drive. But cars are mostly transport due to failure of better public transport infrastructure. I don’t care whether they’re fun. I drive for fun on the Xbox or maybe in a GoKart every few years.

    Oh that felt good to rant.

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      3 days ago

      With Tesla burning right now (sometimes literally), I’m concerned for the future of EVs.

      There are other EV-only makers, most notably in my mind, rivian, but not many others come to mind.

      Most other manufacturers have either stopped making EVs entirely, or switched to hybrid, or hybrid adjacent technologies. Honda is a good example of this backpedaling. They dipped their collective toes into EVs with proper hybrid vehicles during the pre-pandemic years. Between 2015 and 2020 (ish) they had a PHEV, the clarity. It was discontinued in 2020. I forget if the last model year was 2019 or 2020. Either way, I still kind of want one… Regardless, they took everything they learned and put it into their fancy new e-CVT, which essentially, at most speeds, turns the gasoline motor of the vehicle into a generator, powering an electric motor that drives the wheels.

      Don’t get me wrong, that’s still more efficient than burning the Jurassic forests to drive motion, but it’s not as efficient as running the drive motor from batteries that were charged from green sources.

      Most other manufacturers have done something similar in abandoning BEVs for HEVs or whatever Honda is doing. There’s a few stand out exceptions, like the F150 lightening. Good on you Ford… But the list is pretty short, especially compared to the fuel based alternatives.

      It’s a good time for other companies to pick up the ball that Tesla dropped here, and I’m hoping they do. … I mean, they won’t because they’re too busy buying yachts with all that fossil fuel bribe money they get, but I can dream.

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        Apart from China, Hyundai/Kia is producing really great EVs. And the German brands have viable ones that might eventually catch up to Korea and China now that they’re taking it more seriously. Renault is really getting it lately and even Stellantis is coming with new platforms that are pretty good. The Japanese have invested more in anti-EV-propaganda than in EVs.

        We have a Hyundai Kona from 2019 and it’s an amazing car. Every single person who ever tried it never wants to drive an ICE again. And this is an old low-to-mid-end vehicle. Our next EV is definitely going to be a lot better.

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          18 hours ago

          My only real personal problems with EVs, have nothing to do with them being electric.

          Early EVs all looked like science experiments… I’ll give some examples. The Nissan leaf. The BMW i3. And a more recent example is the VW ID.Buzz mini bus thing.

          I want a car, not a statement piece, and until recently, Tesla seemed to be the only ones selling EVs that didn’t look dramatically different than other cars on the road. I just want a car. I want it to use volts instead of gasoline.

          The second issue I have has more to do with the automobile market than EVs… Everyone seems to have a sport crossover or SUV converted to EV, but very few have just plain sedans, and those that do, a nontrivial number of them violate the first complaint.

          I like EVs, I want to drive an EV, but I don’t want it to look like it’s straight out of someone’s LSD trip. That’s just not groovy man … I’m not a fan of SUVs, I just want a small sedan or coupe that’s normal except it uses batteries instead of Jurassic remains.

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            9 hours ago

            Well, out Kona is a weird crossover-y thing but otherwise literally identical to its ICE brothers.

            Maybe Peugeot, Citroen and similar are what you are after? The new Peugeot 308 electric is pretty “boring” - it’s not an amazing EV but better than what they had before

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              3 hours ago

              Unfortunately Peugeot and Citroen are not names I’ve ever seen for cars sold here.

              I have, of course, heard of both mentioned at some point, but here in Canada, neither seem to be brands we can buy. I’m not sure why that is, I have never felt the need to look into it.

              Our major players are GM, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, BMW, Mercedes, VW, Kia, and all their subsidiaries (off the top of my head). Not sure if I missed any major ones there… There is of course some more niche companies but they’re not really on my radar, so to speak… I’ve also omitted Tesla on purpose for obvious reasons.

              Hyundai only has hybrid sedans, some plug in hybrid, which is better than most, beyond that we’re stuck with mostly SUVs and light trucks as EVs, or whatever designer-looking monstrosity someone wants to release… The story seems to be the same across all major players, to the point where I just kind of gave up the search a few years back, for the most part. Anything I’ve looked up or looked at since seems to follow the same trends.

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    4 days ago

    It’s been difficult to find manual transmisssions for a couple of decades here in the US. That ship has sailed.

    While most of my life I vowed my kids would learn manual, I gave up on that idea because

    • manual transmission cars are rare and disappearing
    • automatics now are more fuel efficient
    • CVT are reliable and even more efficient
    • EVs don’t shift

    My kids started driving in a world of automatics and will soon be in a world with no transmissions

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        3 days ago

        The Si and the R! They both sell like hotcakes, waited 8 months for my 2024 Si. I’m not sure why Honda doesn’t increase the volume, there’s still a lot of demand - maybe the margins aren’t as good as their SUVs :(

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          Wow I had no idea, that’s crazy. I went with the 2024 sport touring because I do city driving 90% of the time, but that Si looked NICE