• TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world
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    I don’t get the hate this place gets. It’s been really interesting watching Lemmy’s growing pains over the last two-ish years and all the changes it has undergone. The whole concept of the Fediverse is fascinating to me and has been a genuine delight to explore.

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      I blame Tankies. They’re too aggressive with their “liberals this, liberals that” bullshit, which drives a way a lot of people cause that makes Lemmy look like a MAGA-infested shithole to anyone who doesn’t know what a Tankie this.

      Hexbear and LemmyGrad’s bullshit almost made me quit Lemmy day one, until I learned how instances work and how to block them. I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off.

      I wish Tankies would just stay in their own god damn space, and keep their bootlicking politics to themselves. They’re ruining Lemmy.

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        Can confirm - I’m new here and when I see pieces of shit who’d be right at home amongst the people my grandfather killed in WWII (AKA nazis) it doesn’t make me more interested in sticking around. At this point IDGAF why they think they way they think, they can fuck off into the sun. At some point I’ll see whatever blocking thing there is and it will get better. Still an improvement over reddit.

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          people my grandfather killed in WWII

          YSK that it was tankies who killed 80% of the Nazis in ww2

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            We know, it was a team effort.

            There was also that broken Nazi/Soviet pact and all that carving up of other peoples countries though that was supposed to go the other way.

            And look, another Nazi plot with the Russians.

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              The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone. The Soviets were one of the last to sign one, because they had spent the proceeding years trying to form an explicitly anti-Nazi pact with the capitalist nations, only to be rebuffed.

              If Chamberlain had listened to Stalin, the war either wouldn’t have happened, or it would have been over much more quickly.

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                It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say that the bully countries never understand.

                There was also a secret protocol to the pact, which was revealed only after Germany’s defeat in 1945[101] although hints about its provisions had been leaked much earlier, so as to influence Lithuania.[102] According to the protocol, Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland were divided into German and Soviet “spheres of influence”.[101] In the north, Finland, Estonia, and Latvia were assigned to the Soviet sphere.[101] Poland was to be partitioned in the event of its “political rearrangement”: the areas east of the PisaNarewVistula, and San rivers would go to the Soviet Union, and Germany would occupy the west.[101] Lithuania, which was adjacent to East Prussia, was assigned to the German sphere of influence, but a second secret protocol, agreed to in September 1939, reassigned Lithuania to the Soviet Union.[103] According to the protocol, Lithuania would be granted its historical capital, Vilniuswhich was part of Poland during the interwar period. Another clause stipulated that Germany would not interfere with the Soviet Union’s actions towards Bessarabia, which was then part of Romania.[101] As a result, Bessarabia as well as the Northern Bukovina and Hertsa regions were occupied by the Soviets and integrated into the Soviet Union.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

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                  It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say

                  Please tell me what alternative there was for these “cut up countries”. If the USSR hadn’t established military presence in these countries, they’d just have been invaded by the Nazis. Maybe you expect the Soviet Union, after being ignored for a decade of mutual defense negotiations, to selflessly send its people to die for the countries that refused a military alliance? Like literally, what was the alternative here

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                    What a bunch of bullshit. It was naked irredentism as Stalin conquered countries that had gained their independence from Russia during the Revolutions and you know it.

                    And they were damn well proven right to be mistrustful of Russian chauvinism.

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                  Everyone except America :)

                  Tends to happen when there’s war happening in another continent

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        I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off

        Good. The last thing we need is more stormfront brainrot.

        Also, quite the ironic comment.