• sga@lemmings.world
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    is it too late for me to “teknikally - at trains de Broglie wavelength, the decoherence length is probably of the order of size of proton or maybe even less, so actually, the system became deterministic, pretty much as soon as trains started moving, and our lever pulling can only change the results between the (no certain death) and (certain death), and expectatition value of death is now just classical addition of probablities of these added (and not the wave additions) and so, non of the interpretations are required”

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    I oscillate the lever at a rate such that I cannot know whether the wave-trolley went through while the detectors were on or off, introducing further uncertainty.

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    I put the lever in the box with the cat, smeared with tuna, which also release the poison.

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    Ez. I put myself into a box with a lever and a bomb. The bomb is activated by an NAND gate with one input being 50% chance activated if the lever is pulled, and the other input is attached to an uncollaped wave function with a 50% chance of being measured or not.

    This allows the lever, bomb, and myself to enter an undefined state beyond life and death, beyond position and momentum, to become the transitionary flow between something and nothing.

    While nobody is watching, the box is equally likely to be inside the quantum trolley, and on the tracks, and on the side as an observer, at the same time.

    All my separate possibility wavefunctions then may or may not pull the lever at the exact moment the quantum trolley hits a quantum eraser.

    If performed correctly, the collective consciousness of the universe experiences what us humans would refer to as a aneurysm followed by violent seizures.

    Finally, this neuroplastic wound bootstraps a emergency regenerative attempt to repair such devastating damage to the concept of causality.

    A series of tachyons froth at the epicenter of the incident. The act like antibodies fighting a virus, causing a level-4∆ Retroactive Reality Recalibration Event(RRRE-4∆)

    Boom, The quantum trolley never even existed in the first place.

    Q.E.D

    taps forehead

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      let me ask you, you either would be a “barely undergrad” or a “post doc” and nothing between, so who are you - (and no, a superposition of those 2 is not allowed)

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        In the fictional trolly Im definitely undergrad think its way funnier that way especially if the solution actually works out.

        In reality im neither an undergrad nor a post doc nor anything in between. I just passionately enjoy understanding the behaviors of the universe and have extensively studied various topics including quantum field theory as well as theoretical particle physics in my free time for many years.

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    I run towards one of the slits and cover it with my body.
    The trolley now behaves like a normal trolley made out of particles.
    It instantly grinds to a halt since there are no rails on its side of the barrier.

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    As a good virtue ethicist I walk away from the lever and live my virtuous life

    Probably by trying to beat up Persians. Or some other city state. Or slaves. You know, virtuously

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    I fight the universe with the universe. I pull out a 20 sided die. 10 or under I pull the lever. I place all blame or credit upon what the die says.

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    I do nothing. I went through QM classes in my Chemistry times and I still don’t get it. If I do nothing at least nobody can blame me for fucking everything up.

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      I feel like blame is the very obvious factor missing from most descriptions of trolley problems I’ve seen.

      “Will it send me to jail?” is a highly important question for something that might easily be considered murder even if it does prevent other deaths.

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        the blame aspect is the original purpose of the trolley problem, it’s about whether the trolley puller can accept the moral blame of killing the one person (and saving 5 others) in the original postulation // is the trolley puller blameless for non-intervention even when intervention is trivial