Summary

Trump adviser Stephen Miller erupted on Fox News after MSNBC analyst Andrew Weissmann criticized Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to deport migrants as possibly unconstitutional.

Miller called Weissmann “an absolute moron,” “a fool,” and “a degenerate,” claiming he “shills for people who rape and murder Americans.”

When host Martha MacCallum noted both could express opinions, Miller shouted that he’d “defend American lives” while Weissmann “can defend illegal alien rapists, terrorists and predators.”

This continues Miller’s pattern of televised outbursts, including previous incidents on CNN and reactions to SNL jokes about Trump.

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      13 hours ago

      nah man. the deepest guild spice junkie had a ton of more decency and morality than Stephen Miller. don’t drag them down with him.

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      He looks like a movie villain written to be universally hated with no redeeming qualities. But he’s only the second half.

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    Miller called Weissmann “an absolute moron,” “a fool,” and “a degenerate,” claiming he “shills for people who rape and murder Americans.”

    MAGA appears fundamentally unable to have a civilized discussion on a subject.

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    this the guy that dyed his bald scalp to look like he had a full head of hair.

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    …people who rape and murder Americans

    I can think of a certain POTUS that raped a woman, was charged with sexual assault , and is culpable for the deaths of countless Americans.

    Is Stephen arguing for or against migrants? His arguments are the top criteria for the Trump admin, morons, fools, rapists, murderers, rapists, terrorists, and predators. I assume he said “rapists” twice because that’s his favorite.

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      It’s okay when rich white people do it.

      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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      Reminded of that Sartre quote again https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity

      Except instead of fall silent I guess it’s have a tantrum now?

      Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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        Is this guy on Ketamine too? Slurred speech, sagging eyes, exaggerated facial expressions…

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          The sad, scary news here is that Miller represents an actual segment of the population.

          Those nutcases who scream incel nonsense out of nowhere on a reddit post? Those facebook messages where a complete stranger starts cussing you out for being a woman, being dark-skinned? For posting a picture of yourself smiling? These are the people who are Stephen Miller. He’s an archetype right now, and yes this is revolting to think about, but we’ve nurtured or allowed the nurturing of communities of these broken, sad messes of humans. They are deeply wrecked by lifetimes of self-hate and shame and sexual insecurity and there are far, far more of them than any of us realize and yeah, we should be worried.

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      They’ve seized the Kennedy Center for the arts in Washington DC. We can expect Hitler Trump Youth displays and campaigns against degenerate art, starting here and spreading across the country.

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      THANK YOU. I’ve been sounding this alarm for years and I’ve felt like a lone crazy person a lot of the time when doing it.

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        It makes me nervous that people use the word degenerate casually without knowing the history of the word, so people like this guy using it the nazi way can just sneak in with it

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      He is not a clown joking around, he is a dangerous sociopath who is a chief architect of our budding anti-immigrant apparatus. Our Heinrich Himmler analogue.

      He is threatening a member of the press on live TV. There is nothing funny or boorish about it.

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    Kapo isn’t strong enough to describe this bastard.

    Shouting and screaming like this is his go-to move whenever he gets put in a corner. Someone should just mute his mic and slap him when he starts his Nazi fits.

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    Miller called Weissmann “an absolute moron,” “a fool,” and “a degenerate,” claiming he “shills for people who rape and murder Americans.”

    Well, that sounds wilfully defamatory. Let’s hope his sorry ass gets dragged into court.

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      All of that is purely opinion. Defamation has to be statements of fact, not opinion. Turn in your law license.

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        “Defamation is a statement that injures a third party’s reputation. The tort of defamation includes both libel (written statements) and slander (spoken statements). State common law and statutory law governs defamation actions, and each state varies in their standards for defamation and potential damages .”

        I will also be waiting for you to turn in your law license.

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          I assume you’re quoting from this page?

          https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/defamation

          If so, you should have kept reading:

          “To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; …”

          So, opinions don’t count. Nothing he said was a verifiable statement of fact, it was all purely opinion, so it’s not defamation.

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            Thanks for your law degree!

            I think you are getting confused as telling the truth is generally not considered defamation. Telling a lie that causes a tort (or an injury, now that you have lost your license) is the definition of defamation.

            Please just stop with your opinion nonsense.

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              Exactly my point. Telling a lie (something that can be factually true or false, and isn’t merely an opinion) is an element of defamation (clearly not the entire definition of defamation, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you knew that much at least).

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                Don’t even play, your original statement was nonsensical to defining defamation.

                While defamation is hard to prove in some circumstances, in this case it is pretty cut and dry.

                “prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence ; and 4) damages , or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.”

                We have three of the conditions already. The plaintiff would need to prove harm for the last. With an actual tort I think this case could be successful, but there are a lot of variables.

                What do you think?

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                  1. a false statement purporting to be fact;

                  What’s the false statement purporting to be fact, and not simply an opinion?

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      I don’t think we use defamation lawsuits and politics enough. Look at how much good Dominion did by filing one. People who are lied about by fascists should sue them in every instance, expose their lies in court, and collect lots of money off of them. If we had done this earlier we could have stopped fascism entirely by this method, and maybe too late to do this but it’s probably not useless

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    This guy is always throwing tantrums when people ask questions. He must imagine it means he’s in control. He clearly has no life skills, unless being a bitter little Nazi counts as a life skill. Look at him throwing around accusations of being “a degenerate”: he even borrows his vocabulary from his hero Goebbels.