Summary

Romania’s electoral commission barred far-right candidate Calin Georgescu from the presidential election without explanation.

Georgescu, who led polls with 40%, called the move “a direct blow to democracy” and plans to appeal. His supporters protested in Bucharest.

The constitutional court annulled his prior election win over alleged Russian interference, which he denies. He faces legal issues, including accusations of financing violations and extremist ties.

A vocal Trump supporter, Georgescu received backing from Trump officials, including Elon Musk and JD Vance, who condemned Romania’s actions.

  • gon [he]@lemm.ee
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    20 hours ago

    Well, on one hand, I like the far-right getting some institutional push-back. On the other hand, I’m a little concerned with both the state of democracy — that such a candidate could get so many votes — and the disregard for the people’s vote — while there may have been significant Russian interference, to what extent should the courts intervene with what seems to be a genuinely popular candidate?

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        10 hours ago

        Sigh… I really don’t like the way things have been going in Europe…

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        13 hours ago

        He was talking more about the will of the people, but okay.

        Your feelings are more important.

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          There hasn’t been any will of the people expressed yet. The guy is a Russian asset with zero spine and he’s been eliminated from the race. The people will get to express their will with the other candidates, of which they’ll have many.

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            12 hours ago

            There hasn’t been any will of the people expressed yet.

            Georgescu, who led polls with 40%

            More lies from the left.

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              Left or right has nothing to do with it. The guy is a spineless corrupt Russian agent and the justice system is doing its’ job unlike recent examples of other countries.

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      There is strong legal backing to this. Romania bars anyone with ties to or rhetoric similar to the Iron Guard (Romanian fascists) from running. Georgescu has strong ties to them, and he’s not even the only politician barred from running due to this for this election (Sosoaca).

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        10 hours ago

        Georgescu has strong ties to them

        I see he’s praised the Iron Guard before. Makes sense.

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        12 hours ago

        Not to mention, their open ties to the fascist party running the USA is also quite problematic. Very very high chance of foreign interference.

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      It’s a shitshow if you look at it closely. Basically he got so many votes because the ruling party wanted to try the pied piper strategy that gave the US Trump. That included giving his campaign illegal support, which invalidated the previous election. And now they’re just outright going to ban him. They’re just throwing away democracy and pretending they’re saving democracy.

      Not that I want the guy to win or be anywhere near power, but it’s a strategy that will backfire eventually and has in many countries. But I guess the alternative is to actually deliver for the people and that’s obviously unacceptable.

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        You misspelled “deliver for Putin”. A lot of countries have laws against foreign influence attacks on their elections.

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      13 hours ago

      to what extent should the courts intervene with what seems to be a genuinely popular candidate?

      It all depends on who you ask.

      If you ask the average leftist on English-speaking internet forums, they will say the will of the people should always be disregarded in favor of the will of the leftist. They really are that childish.

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        If you ask the average leftist on English-speaking internet forums

        Seems pretty obvious you haven’t actually interacted with an average leftist, let me tell you, because that is not true…

        I’ll say though, I’m torn, but leaning towards thinking this really wasn’t that bad. There’s a difference between allowing right-wing policy and opening the door to fascism. Should poison be allowed to run for main course?

        Călin Georgescu seems to be a pretty clear-cut fascist, to be honest.

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          Seems pretty obvious you haven’t actually interacted with an average leftist, let me tell you, because that is not true…

          No, it most certainly is true. The left has decided that it’s acceptable and encouraged to stoop to the level of their enemies. You probably disagree with this because it’s a hard truth you don’t want to acknowledge; don’t worry, I see it all the time.

          There’s a difference between allowing right-wing policy and opening the door to fascism. Should poison be allowed to run for main course?

          Now that’s an actual discussion to be had. I, personally, think representative democracies need to go the way of the dodo and we should move to direct voting. I try not to reason about a broken system that is rotten to the core. It’s a waste of time and an effective distraction from what we should be doing instead.

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            No, it most certainly is true. The left has decided that it’s acceptable and encouraged to stoop to the level of their enemies. You probably disagree with this because it’s a hard truth you don’t want to acknowledge; don’t worry, I see it all the time.

            Sigh, there’s no stats on this, so I’ll refrain from further discussion…

            It’s a waste of time and an effective distraction from what we should be doing instead.

            Well.

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      It’s a tough call to make, isn’t it? Baring a candidate is inherently undemocratic, surely in a perfect democracy any candidate who is receiving votes should be considered. However given the current state of global politics, it’s also equally true that any candidate who is being manipulated by an outside government (such as allegedly Russia/USA in this example) should be restricted for the very same reasoning of allowing the voters to have their say without interference or manipulation by people who have an interest in the election being decided undemocraticly.

      Ultimately, the decision to prevent any candidate, popular or not, is one that should not be taken lightly. And yet must also be a decision that can and should be made under the right conditions to protect the democratic nature of elections.

      I sincerely hope that the people who made the decision in this case explain their reasoning publicly, and have a very good justification for doing so.

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      19 hours ago

      This is the most reasonable assessment in my opinion. The very same people down voting you would go apeshit if the Supreme Court barred what they deemed a far left candidate. If people don’t like right-wing politicians then they should demand a candidate passionate about popular policies to oppose them. However barring or attempting to, like Democrats did with Bernie, & has other candidates during debates & on the ballots, helped give us Trump.

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      It’s a tough question but I don’t think it’s hypocritical.

      A good government serves two roles: (a) to protect the rights of its citizens, and (b) to enact policy that is representative of its citizens (as shown by popular vote and opinion, usually). But no policy should be allowed to supersede a real right, no matter how popular.

      So if a candidate is going to subjugate rights as a matter of policy, that government is right to bar them, even if that is undemocratic. Minds can differ on what rights have primacy, and how nuanced those rights are, but I think it’s coherent.