Summary

Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff, in a CNN interview with Jake Tapper, failed to specify any Russian concessions in a potential Ukraine peace deal despite detailing demands on Ukraine.

After claiming a “friendship” with Putin, Witkoff spoke vaguely about “territorial” and “economic” concessions from both sides. He also claimed a U.S.-Ukraine deal on raw earth minerals would be signed soon.

When confronted with Russian state TV footage suggesting Trump’s stance aligns with Putin’s, Witkoff insisted diplomacy requires communication.

His remarks fueled concerns over Trump’s approach to Russia and Ukraine.

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    16 days ago

    Incredible that Trump remains so mad that Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize that he’s willing to literally just order an ally to give up so he can claim he made the peace and demand his prize. He really was just entirely broken by a black man being president.

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      16 days ago

      This has nothing to do with obama or peace prizes.

      Trump is an agent of putin’s will and he’s carrying out russia’s foreign policy by demanding the full surrender of ukraine.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    16 days ago

    I’ve seen a LOT of russian/trump, “it’s a mystery if they’re in bed together” type posts for the past few days. It made me pull out the bookmarks from the first term. Here is some ammo if anyone needs it (other stuff is mixed in). Remember, leave the link and depart. If you’re explaining, you’re losing.

    https://sh.itjust.works/post/33277983

  • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    I remain unimpressed by CNN reporters because he has not asked the most important question: What will guarantee Russia’s adherence to any kind of peace deal?

    It’s boring to repost it the Nth time but the 1994 Budapest Memorandum was quite clear about these matters:

    1. Respect the signatory’s independence and sovereignty in the existing borders
    2. Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories…
    3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest…
    4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they “should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used”.

    Yet, putin kicked nearly every single point in the memorandum the moment he felt ready. Why would the same leader act differently in the future?

    It’s eerily similar in my view to the Abraham accords. Trump negotiated bypassing Palestinians and then we got Oct 7 and the war that spiraled from it. These “deals” are as flimsy as a CyberTruck, but it’s also very trumpy. He gets to act like a peacemaker and then his successor will deal with the consequent shit. Same thing happened in Afghanistan.

    *edit: also, if someone wants to be “fair” (i’d rather say naive) one can consider the official Russian narrative, but again that narrative explicitly goes against the Budapest Memorandum, meaning, they are very open about not respecting treaties they sign.

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      16 days ago

      Is that a concession? I don’t think he actually wants to be president anymore.

      Don’t get me wrong, it’s the correct “deal” to make - it’s the most overt declaration he can make to those who claim he wants to be dictator for life - I just think it’s probably a win/win for him.

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      16 days ago

      Even the EU vasals have nothing to say.
      Blindly follow the leader, jump when they say. Even let them blow up their cheap gasline and ruin their economy.
      Not one peep. And now they are surprised they get no respect? LOL.
      What does this guy think he has of weight?
      His new US master will decide for him, that’s what happen when you allow your country to be used as a proxy.
      As if there weren’t enough examples of US ‘friends’ thrown under the bus.

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        16 days ago

        Ignant? Have you ever been in war? I’d rather see peace in that region. I know you hate Putin mostly because you associate him with Trump, that’s “ignant” lol

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          16 days ago

          No, I hate Putin because he’s a fascist piece of shit and a murderer. Lmao been hating him since before Trump was ever a household name… don’t give him that kind of credit I didn’t pay attention to him until he started campaigning for the 2016 election.

          That actually made me laugh out loud. Putin is 1000x worse and more dangerous than Donald Drumpf’s clown-ass

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              15 days ago

              I couldn’t care less about what a lying fascist enabler like you think about it.

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                15 days ago

                I think for myself, you clearly don’t. I bet you don’t even know what the word “fascist” means.

                I’ve only said that I want peace in that area and stated that I don’t agree with how Trump is trying to obtain it.

                Go back to playing in the sandbox with the rest of your nose picking friends.

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      16 days ago

      The peace deal proposed by Trump is “Ukraine just take the fattest L known to any country in the last 100 years and be ok with it, and thanks for the rare earth minerals”. While the US didn’t deliver much support compared to EU.

      Wtf is the point of your military if it’s not for peace keeping?

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        16 days ago

        The US donated the most money by a wide margin lol we should fuel the war indefinitely and not opt for peace between both parties?

        Granted, Trump could have said it in a more neutral manner, I don’t agree with what he said about Zelenskyy, he still has the right idea to try to offer peace rather than let it stew into a nuclear war.

        You can root for Ukraine to decimate Russia all you want, but war produces dead bodies of all ages and I’m sure you’ve never seen that carnage before.

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          This is false, the EU donated more than the US. Trump says otherwise, yes, but he is lying.

          Nuclear war is exactly what Trump is risking right now. Russia will go to war again if Trump gives them “peace”. Only next time, they will attack a NATO country.

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            15 days ago

            I wasn’t going off Trump , I checked sites like statists and others before posting. However , his claim of 350 billion was quite an exaggeration.

            We’ll just have to wait and see what happens. Trump did say one thing that made sense. There is an ocean between us and Ukraine, the EU should be more involved than the USA.

            The EU is starting to ramp up their donations recently. Perhaps that was Trump’s intent. Dare we give him credit? Lol

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              If the US wants to be involved or not is up to you guys, that’s fair. It’s our cause, first and foremost. But what Trump is doing now is not “not getting involved”. He is actively sabotaging and siding with Russia. I’d be fine if he just shut up and minded his own business, but he is very much involved right now and even says Europe should not take part in negotiations. So on the one hand, he says it’s Europe’s cause, but on the other, he acts like it’s his his own cause. It’s once again Trump being Trump.

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                That’s what I’m saying, essentially. We should want peace between the two countries, but Trump is just opening his mouth. He always had poor execution.

                He has the right idea, just trying to benefit himself. Seems like he’s trying to extort Ukraine while patting Putin on the head