I’m glad we agree on the part out our rights being suppressed and taken away, though I don’t agree that they shouldn’t feel the heat from their actions. People who claim to be our allies and support us but capitulate to their own fear of something bad happening and oppressing us, are not real allies, and they need to be held accountable and called out for it.

They aren’t even really doing this for liability they’re doing it out of misguided fear and going above and beyond. They are preemptively choosing to be collaborators. Their choice I guess, but they chose yield to fear, they don’t get to choose not to get heat and callouts for it, and I’m glad people are giving them shit for it.

Do you think this is one of those? Do you think a law designed to favor conservative parental rights movements who seek to oppress and own children, and cut them off from their support networks serves a valid or reasonable purpose?

Do you think that refusing to acknowledge a child’s gender identity and sending them to conversion therapy is protecting them from harm? If so, tell me. How does the act of having one’s gender identity respected cause harm?

Tell me this because you seem to believe that things like Gender affirmation and access to online spaces, are on the same level as drugs and alcohol, or you’re giving the impression that you do.

Exactly my point.

Many people would like you to believe that, the reality is that these laws are designed to keep children away from support networks and just further enforce the idea of parents owning their children. They use these same garbage excuses when talking about children and HRT or puberty blockers, and trying to block trans kids from getting these treatments. They call that “protection” as well.

Things aren’t as they say they are. People aren’t honest about their motives. If that’s new to you, wake up, it’s 2025 people have been lying about the real reasons for decades, it’s not and never has been a new concept.

The fact that you are comparing access to spaces like Lemmy to drugs, alcohol, and tobacco says enough about your motives to let me know that any further discussion with you is fruitless. You’re trying to get me to say something that you could claim was implying I support kids taking drugs or alcohol so you could say that the “groomer” (me) supports giving children harmful substances. Ignoring the fact that access to spaces like Lemmy, and access to drugs and alcohol aren’t even remotely similar.

Am I supposed to feel insulted? I don’t care what some right wing troll thinks of me. Whether you like it or not, right wing politicians push for these tactics to take support networks away from vulnerable people who they believe to have ownership of.

It’s weird that you consider actions reminiscent of ownership and control, like trying to keep children away from support groups, or preventing a trans kid from expressing themselves in a way that aligns with their gender identity, responsibility or mentorship. You sound so much like a right wing troll right now, and it’s not funny or amusing.

What, are you going to say that children don’t understand their gender? That they’re confused? That all parents care for their kids and should be the only influence in their lives? It’s certainly sounds like that’s where you’re going right now.

Now I know you’re not only not a real anarchist or have any understanding of anarchism whatsoever but likely a bootlicker too.

The fact that you’re even comparing being on Lemmy or probably also Puberty blockers and HRT to Booze and tobacco shows your motives transparently. Maybe instead of making bad faith comparisons to things that have nothing to do with each other you should actually be thinking of the kids who are hurt by the idea of parents owning kids. Like abused children, or trans kids.

That’s literally the only reason he does it, otherwise he would’ve stopped a long time ago.

I don’t think he does, I think he’s just your classic bootlicker who fundamentally is against everything that dbzer0 stands for, maybe us leftists as a whole too. After looking through his history I have a hard time believing he isn’t an alt-right troll.

Yeah that doesn’t at all, it definitely does come across as enjoying it and makes his statements less believable.

I don’t know if that’s entirely true for all or even most of the current ones, it certainly isn’t for past lemmy.world admins, who may or may not still be on the team.

I really hope people understand where we as admins are coming from, we really take no enjoyment out of banning anyone (except for spammers).

That’s one of the most transparent lies I’ve heard. Power corrupts, and I’ve seen plenty of lemmy.world admins who certainly do enjoy it, and who do it to people to prove a point or as a knee jerk reaction to disagreement. You can call it whatever you want to call, you can deny this fact but it does happen and I’ve seen it myself, and I’d prefer you don’t try to feed me lies I’m smart enough to see right through.

For real, this type of apologia is downright disgusting.

Pay that dumbass no attention, he’s just you’re average right wing troll trying to cater to right wing narrative and giving you shit because he thinks he’s better than you.

What if they have shitty parents and need to go online to vent?

That’s the whole point, they want to keep children away from support networks to enforce the idea of parents owning their children. People are going to argue otherwise but as a trans person myself I’ve seen this and you’re not fooling anyone with your lame excuses about protecting kids. People especially those who are vulnerable need support networks, do you know how many trans kids kill themselves because they can’t get the support they need and live with abusive and controlling parents. Don’t tell me it’s to protect kids, I’m not stupid enough to buy that lie and you’re not stupid enough to think I’d buy it.

He’s arguing that they shouldn’t be used because they’re “confusing and unintuitive” he’s denying the validity of them and refusing to use them, instead calling people who use them trolls. Dumbass is justifying his transphobia by referencing DroneRights and claiming people use those pronouns only to troll. What a repulsive thing to say about a trans person.

@[email protected] you should be ashamed of yourself, and be banned from every instance on the Fediverse like the hateful transphobic troll you are.

So you think girls are so cute you wanna be one? Are you still sure that you’re entirely cis buddy 🥚