Was banned on a totally different instance and community despite never commenting in the community.

I suspect I was banned for questioning the narrative in this thread yesterday:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/be066e3c-b1ae-416c-bc71-248d3056c6ed.jpeg?thumbnail=1500&format=webp

I am a trans person and have no issue with trans people expressing who they are. The mods and admins of blahaj frequently use Gatekeeping as a false umbrella ban for any user they want to get rid of. This is also discussed in yesterday’s thread by some users.

The owners of that 196 space have proven they are unable to let sleeping dogs lie and are hellbent on tearing down all other instances in a tribal war, and have decided to start lurking in other spaces and preemptively banning people like reddit mods.

This is not fair moderation practices, it’s a petty tit for tat because abuse in their community was called out yesterday.

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    I am going to ask here because I couldn’t do it in the other one before it was locked.

    Hypothetical scenario

    • An unmoderated instance allows people to make hate speech comments
    • That instance also has interesting communities, so defederation is not possible
    • An admin sees this and pre-emptively bans the people making hate speech comments

    Would you be okay with way of moderating? I’m asking because it seems like the “despite never commenting in the community” argument gets brought up a lot, but is that really that good of an argument?

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      Good illustrative post.

      In the end, and I am sure you are aware, you pose the wrong question. “Would you be okay with that way of moderating” isn’t the question because it ignores the dynamics of federation. Ada owns the server. If you’re not okay with the moderation, you move servers, and a huge community like 196 has already shown it will move mountains to stay on LBZ.

      So, the question OP should ask is “do I care enough about this space to apologize or attempt to make ammends?”

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      Careful with your wording, the people being banned aren’t gatekeeping, that’s just the bullshit excuse used and then if it’s ever refuted, well then the record says they’re a bigot and who cares what they think?

      Considering every different space has different rules, it is unfair to force the loosely interpreted rules of one space on a totally different space.

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          You not wanting to read does not change me answering your question.

          Considering every different space has different rules, it is unfair to force the loosely interpreted rules of one space on a totally different space.

          If you want the rules of another instance changed you can ask the owners of that instance.

          Lurking/banning users mods don’t like for bullshit reasons is objectively bad policy and shows PTB

          Autobans are reddit mod behavior.

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            I was curious why you’re being so evasive.

            This is called gatekeeping people’s identities. That is what you’re doing. You are engaging in bigotry so yeah, of course you’re going to get banned from a queer safe space. It doesn’t matter how trans or gay you might be, if you’re practicing bigotry then you’re part of the problem. You’re part of the reason these safe spaces exist to begin with.

            If you can’t deal with the idea that someone might have an identity that you can’t understand, then you need to grow up.

            Stop perpetuating the cycle of abuse.

            The fact that someone who’s supposedly trans isn’t able to understand that they are continuing the exact cycle of abuse that cis people have been pushing onto trans people is very sad. How lucky you must be to have never been doubted or told that your identity is fictional.