Because of all the mass surveillance…

  • Skynet did win.

    Conner led a rebellion, after the machines won. Terminator was an attempt to go back and squash the rebellion before it started.

    By Terminator, the rebellion hadn’t (yet?) been successful, and all it did was ensure the leader of the rebellion would be born. The second was an fight over ensuring/preventing the paradox caused by the first.

    I didn’t follow things after that, but, and I thought the second was not as good as the first so I gave up on the franchise; but in none that I saw was Skynet ever prevented. The fact that the third movie, which I didn’t see, happened means that the MacGuffin in the second movie wasn’t needed for Skynet to happen.

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      I thought the second was not as good as the first

      That is a pretty rare take! Most consider it one of the examples where a sequel is better than the original (and T2 is considered one of the best action movies of all time).

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      T3 portrays the actual moments of the rise of skynet, so even though I don’t normally recommend it, for purposes of this discussion I wish you had seen it 😂

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    I’ve gone down the rabbit hole hard a couple years back, and I must say, coming out the other end, surveillance integration and technological evolution aren’t bad per se, l. The usage, or rather the effect to wich some people are using it is the problem.

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      But if it exists, there will ALWAYS be those people who use it like this. Therefore, those people in my mind come packaged with the technology. So you CAN say this level of surveillance IS bad, because there will never be a time when it exists that it’s not also being abused.

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        Although I do respect the problem, and I accept there will always be a loose cog somewhere that could be exploited or abused, the fear o if is really sociaty/country based.

        If you live in a “decent-wish” country with a strong set of laws, and those laws put you under the microscope or you have something g to hide, I’ve come to the personal realization that it’s not really as much of a problem as some make it out to be.